A Christian Nation?

christian nation

Here is something that I really don’t understand. Despite all evidence to the contrary, conservative Christians INSIST that the United States is a Christian nation founded on Christian principles. Bat-shit crazy Michelle Bachman (and the rest of the Tea Party whack jobs) keep insisting that our founding fathers were Christian when they were not. They keep saying that our Constitution and Pledge of Allegiance all support their ideas about the U.S. being a Christian nation even though neither document mentions God in any form – the Pledge was edited to include God in 1954, but it was originally written (by a socialist) in 1892 and didn’t mention God OR the United States (that wasn’t added until 1923). The thing about the pledge is that it is a poem about pride and allegiance to one’s country. It is not a legal document – hence why it has been edited over the years. We don’t get to edit the Constitution (as much as they would like too) so they just twist the INTENT of the founding fathers to conform to their ideals.

Books and speeches written by those who founded our Country adamantly discourage the idea of a religious nation. The whole point of our country is freedom, and freedom of religion is the ringer. Freedom of religion means ANY religion including the right to not have any religion. I am so tired of the religious right twisting our history to conform to their agenda. I am tired of people lying and scaring people into believing this rhetoric.

Aside from the documented proof that we were not in fact founded by Christians with a Christian agenda; even if they were, and even if they had – they made sure to make our country inclusive. They left God out of it on purpose so that generations that followed could choose their religion without fear of persecution from the government. In some ways, it is like they had a glimpse into the future and knew that we would become a great nation filled with people from around the globe who would bring their religious practices with them. They wanted them to come here and be able to celebrate and practice their faith without persecution. Pretty smart guys for a nation of immigrants!

So why and how did we become a nation that persecutes other religions? Why do Christians feel that this is THEIR country and no one else’s?  Why are our elected leaders and Supreme Court Justices insisting that we all become Christians and follow the Bible? They are all paranoid about Sharia Law in our country – but that is exactly what they are trying to accomplish here with Christianity. Laws from government dictated by religious beliefs. The separation of church and state as set up by our founding fathers is pretty clear and should not ever come up for debate. If something is based in religion – it should not become the law of the land.

For instance – the marriage equality argument. The ONLY argument against it is based on religious views and a couple of verses in the Bible. If we didn’t have laws that govern marriage – there would be no fight for equality under the law – in other words if marriage were only a religious activity, our government should not be involved in it in any way. However, our government offers certain rights and privileges to married people – so therefore all people should be able to marry under the law. If the government wants to eliminate those rights for married people – then they have to eliminate them for all married people. God has no part in it. The Bible has no part in it. Equal rights in our country are based on being human – not based on which God you follow, your gender, your race, or your political affiliation.

We are free to believe any nonsense we want as Americans. We are not free however to dictate the beliefs of others through our laws or government. It really is that simple. I sincerely don’t understand the argument.

I also understand that many many Christians don’t buy into the rhetoric of the religious right in politics. Most Christians live their lives and have their faith and practice it with love and compassion.  I just wish those Christians would make their voices heard over the crazy people like Westboro Baptist, Pat Robertson, and the Tea Party. God aside, I wish the ‘normal’ Republicans would take their party back and speak up against the people who have absolutely ruined the credibility and respect for the party. Bob Dole just came out and said that the Republican party today wouldn’t have had anything to do with him or other prominent Republicans of the past and he thinks they should just stop talking and regroup. I think it’s a great idea. When even your own party members think you are insane – it’s time to do something different.

Christianity in America has become as dangerous as the Taliban in Afghanistan. They are trying to take over our country and trying to change our laws to conform to their religion. I am all for equal representation of religious groups in our government – I think it is important. However, those religious groups should be there to speak for their people, to ensure that no government law infringes on the freedom of religion – not to create laws that everyone must adhere to based on any one religion or faith.

What I also find amazing is that when I was a practicing Christian, what was taught to me was love and compassion. Helping those less fortunate. Living my life in such a way that people would look at me and see that I had peace and happiness and want to know why I was different. Jesus was a pretty cool guy and an activist. He was a liberal. He rallied against the temples being turned into market places (making money off of faith pretty much pissed him right off). The Bible talks over and over again about caring for one another, caring for the sick and poor. If we are in fact a Christian nation – why are there homeless and poor people? We are a rich nation and could easily wipe out poverty. We could easily offer healthcare to everyone regardless of income. If we are a Christian nation – why is it that we ignore basic Christian values? Why is that the religious right is more focused on keeping their guns than protecting children and the poor? To me it is hypocrisy in it’s highest form.

What is it that keeps so many Christians from speaking up when their faith is being twisted into something hideous and oppressive? If you are a Christian person how do you feel about those representing you in government right now? If you could, what would you change? 

14 thoughts on “A Christian Nation?

  1. I’ve often had this same internal debate. The premise I come back to is that most people would rather accept what’s become the status quo as opposed to speaking up and being labeled as anything contrary. For example when the antiwar outcry arose, anyone who spoke out against both the Iraq and Afghan wars were immediately labeled as being unpatriotic. People allowed their opinions to be silenced until they saw it become a growing trend. Personally, I always thought that whether you supported or did not support the wars, to not vocalize your views was truly the unpatriotic deed. This is the root of why our country was founded to begin with. However, I digress…

    If I were a Christian, I would find this hate filled rhetoric to be offensive and would do my best to fight any and all forms of such insidious behavior. There are more Christians out there that do not support this madness than do. However, I think for now they continue to live in fear as opposed to speaking out against what they know and believe to be wrong because they fear being labeled as something contrary.

    As a personal aside, I’ve always felt there is far more text in the New Testament and even in the Old for that matter, putting forth love and acceptance above all else. After all, once Jesus came into the picture, don’t most Christians subscribe to the thought that they now live under the new law of Christ as he was the final sacrifice for their sins? This would then void Old Testament laws such as cutting off both a man and a woman who have sex while she is menstruating, or stoning to death those who curse their parents or God, or marrying the virgin you rape and paying her 50 sheckles of silver. Why would anyone in their right mind wish to practice such madness as opposed to the following?:

    “And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.” – Mark 12:28-30

    “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.” – Matthew 5:43-48

    “Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.” – Romans 13:8

    “As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.” – Ephesians 4:1-2

    Just my opinion though :0)
    -b

    • Louder – thank you for your comment! I agree with you completely and I do think those who fail to speak up are not doing so out of fear. Fear really is what drives us all. It is why peer pressure works, and the “mob mentality” in riot situations. I believe though that there are more good Christians than bad – I just wish they would speak up more. Christianity could be a good thing, and like the verses you pointed out – if Christians would really live a life like Christ we wouldn’t be in this situation today. Wealth and power corrupts (that’s in the Bible too) and yet many Christians especially politically active ones – fail to adhere to those parts of the Bible – which represents the majority of its content.

  2. Do you live in my brain? Thank you for putting into words the thoughts and emotions that are continuously pulsing in and out of my gray matter. I have thought all these same things and I can and do become so despondent at what our country is turning into. I was raised a Christian and I know and love a lot of the same bible verses as xlouderthanlovex has quoted in her comment above. Yet, I cannot, in good, moral conscience, call myself a Christian anymore, because Christianity has been hijacked from us by these self-appointed, modern-day Pharisees. Christians who believe that any form of Christianity not supported by the Christian Bible as printed and translated by their own publishing companies and taught by only their brand of trained leaders, is false, Only “rebirth” into this new Christianity, marks one as “SAVED.” All the wonderful, loving, giving, people of other cultures and religions or no dogmatic religious leaning at all are condemned to “HELL.” That’s not the God I learned of during my Christian religious upbringing. But I forget, that God doesn’t exist anymore, having been replaced by this new patriotic American God.

    • It is sad isn’t it? These extreme “Christians” have done for Christianity what terrorists have done for Islam. The religions aren’t the problem – it’s the followers but they are the voices and representation of the faith. Many Christians today are scared to admit they are Christian because they don’t want to be associated with the crazy – I wish instead that they would take back their faith.

  3. I would say that about 90%+ of my facebook friends are Christians…many of them are family, many old friends from my parochial school days. I don’t know if I think it’s fear that prevents many of them from speaking out…I actually think they agree with a lot of the oppressive views and rhetoric. They honestly feel that their way of thinking is the only way of thinking; they honestly believe that Equal marriage rights will ruin marriage and even the country; (ignoring the fact that heterosexuals have done a pretty good job of ruining marriage on our own). They are the most impossible people to have a conversation or debate with because their answer for everything is to spew bible passages at you…still not grasping the fact that everyone doesn’t believe in the bible. I am a Christian (although I am more spiritual now than religious), and when I have spoken out on issues it becomes almost as pointless as poking my eyes out…no one is listening, they already believe they are superior people and favored by God. You can’t talk to many of them about wealth inequality for instance or gun rights or marriage rights or politics or heck even education or starving kids…many of them are illogical and seem to know nothing of Jesus or what he would have actually thought and done. Jesus would have definitely been a liberal fighting for the rights of the oppressed not for the rights of the oppressor.

    • Ayana, I feel your pain. Talking to some Christians (especially ones who are political) is like talking to a brick wall. It saddens me actually.

  4. I consider myself a follower of Christ, although I have much to learn. I’m not a fan lately of the words “religion” or “Christianity” because of the negative connotations brought on by conservative Tea Party Christians. I also roll my eyes and the belief that Republicans are the religious right. Really? They are the total opposite, but their followers believe. I fight by going to the polls when it’s time to vote and by trying to be the example of a Christ follower – as it was meant to be – by helping others as much as I’m able. I’m not the protestor type, but if Scott Walker or Michelle Bachman ever live in the White House, I’ll be persuaded to carry a sign.

    • I think that’s a key thing – separate politics from faith. Just because a politician says they are Christian doesn’t mean they they will reflect those values in a political office. The “Christians” in politics right now surely don’t represent Christ in any way. I know many Christians who vote Republican because that is what they are “supposed”
      to do. They don’t look at candidates or judge based on policy. I know one girl who votes Republican because her Dad tells her who to vote for and shes 38. Voting is the best protest – but we need to ensure we are making educated votes and not just listening to our favorite media source.

  5. “For instance – the marriage equality argument. The ONLY argument against it is based on religious views and a couple of verses in the Bible.” You’ve taken the words right out of my mouth, but, there is one other argument people give occasionally when asked the question and their reply is “it makes me kind of uncomfortable.” Now that’s an honest answer and something I can work with. Open a discussion, but once they start quoting a couple of short sentences from the Bible, the argument is pretty much over. Logic and respect are no longer part of the equation.

    • I hear ya! I wrote a post a while ago about marriage equality and keeping people off the religious argument was difficult. However, even the honest answer of, “It makes me uncomfortable” while honest is not enough to dictate our laws. Lots of things make me uncomfortable that people do, but I don’t want to legislate my uneasiness. I want logic and respect to dominate the conversation and that is sincerely what I try to do with this blog. Thanks for you comment and for reading!

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